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		<title>By: Tankette</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Tankette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first heroics were painful. But then many heroics became easy when the dps&#039;ers started doing 2K instead of 1K. Many encounters that seem like your failing as a tank are really the result of low dps.

Read up on all the bosses in VH so you&#039;ll know what to do for each one. It is one of the easier heroics if you know what to do for all of the bosses.

Heroic Pinnacle, the Skadi fight in particular, is a pain. I&#039;ve been with groups that couldn&#039;t get through the fight no matter how many times we try. It seems like the failure is due to the tanking. But when I go in with different groups we one shot the fight and it seems easy. Same tank. Hmm, maybe it isn&#039;t the tank failing? Or maybe it is, I dunno. 7 successful runs of Pinnacle and too many runs of Naxx to count and I still have a blue quality sword.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tankette&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tankette.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/and-more-naxx/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;And more Naxx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first heroics were painful. But then many heroics became easy when the dps&#8217;ers started doing 2K instead of 1K. Many encounters that seem like your failing as a tank are really the result of low dps.</p>
<p>Read up on all the bosses in VH so you&#8217;ll know what to do for each one. It is one of the easier heroics if you know what to do for all of the bosses.</p>
<p>Heroic Pinnacle, the Skadi fight in particular, is a pain. I&#8217;ve been with groups that couldn&#8217;t get through the fight no matter how many times we try. It seems like the failure is due to the tanking. But when I go in with different groups we one shot the fight and it seems easy. Same tank. Hmm, maybe it isn&#8217;t the tank failing? Or maybe it is, I dunno. 7 successful runs of Pinnacle and too many runs of Naxx to count and I still have a blue quality sword.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Tankette&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://tankette.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/and-more-naxx/" rel="nofollow">And more Naxx</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Alaphrei</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1547</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaphrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that for those two bosses, especially for a group with less DPS, blowing the defenses in the instance helps a ton.  I haven&#039;t seen Zuramat since our attempt to do the achievement (we totally zerged it, almost wiped, but barely made it through... blew Heroism early etc, our DPS was higher than 1k each though).

You can&#039;t get the achievement for not hitting the levers if you do this, but it&#039;s way better than banging your head against a wall over and over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that for those two bosses, especially for a group with less DPS, blowing the defenses in the instance helps a ton.  I haven&#8217;t seen Zuramat since our attempt to do the achievement (we totally zerged it, almost wiped, but barely made it through&#8230; blew Heroism early etc, our DPS was higher than 1k each though).</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t get the achievement for not hitting the levers if you do this, but it&#8217;s way better than banging your head against a wall over and over.</p>
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		<title>By: Leewsham</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1546</link>
		<dc:creator>Leewsham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ran it last night and got the voids for the first boss and Xevozz for the second.  Talk about bad luck.  I was on my Shammy healer and we pull through put it was not easy and it sucks to have to restart after a wipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ran it last night and got the voids for the first boss and Xevozz for the second.  Talk about bad luck.  I was on my Shammy healer and we pull through put it was not easy and it sucks to have to restart after a wipe.</p>
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		<title>By: Kranmar</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>Kranmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ichoron becomes really easy once you start using the instance defenses when he splits into all the adds (triggered by the small red candle holders on the wall, there&#039;s four of them in the room). If you&#039;re not sure where they are, then have a look around before you start the event so you can find them easily and designate one person to use one when the boss splits (5 sec cast timer on it).

Zuramat can be a bit trickier, as your dps will need to pay close attention and realize when they should be nuking the adds instead of the boss.

In general, VH can be tricky or easy, Xevozz for example needs to be kited along the balconies, to make sure that the orbs don&#039;t get near him. If they do, he will start dishing out incredible amounts of damage. I had a nice group setup recently, with a retri pala a warlock and a healing priest, which buffed my health up to 36k when commanding shout was up. I made a wrong choice in the direction that I started kiting Xevozz and got caught on a baclony with an orb coming from both directions. One orb reached Xevozz and he did 30k damage in two seconds. The priest was there for the first time and didn&#039;t expect that sort of burst damage, and so we wiped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ichoron becomes really easy once you start using the instance defenses when he splits into all the adds (triggered by the small red candle holders on the wall, there&#8217;s four of them in the room). If you&#8217;re not sure where they are, then have a look around before you start the event so you can find them easily and designate one person to use one when the boss splits (5 sec cast timer on it).</p>
<p>Zuramat can be a bit trickier, as your dps will need to pay close attention and realize when they should be nuking the adds instead of the boss.</p>
<p>In general, VH can be tricky or easy, Xevozz for example needs to be kited along the balconies, to make sure that the orbs don&#8217;t get near him. If they do, he will start dishing out incredible amounts of damage. I had a nice group setup recently, with a retri pala a warlock and a healing priest, which buffed my health up to 36k when commanding shout was up. I made a wrong choice in the direction that I started kiting Xevozz and got caught on a baclony with an orb coming from both directions. One orb reached Xevozz and he did 30k damage in two seconds. The priest was there for the first time and didn&#8217;t expect that sort of burst damage, and so we wiped.</p>
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		<title>By: Daslasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daslasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heroic VH is an odd beast, you can run it 9 times in 25 minutes and think its easy then hit trouble in the tenth run. The &#039;kite around the top&#039; boss is very unpredictable with his buggy summons even though you are in los.

I tend to use the lamps on Ichorons adds (only time i have found them useful). As for the Void, its just a matter of having decent dps and a really solid healer. Everyone, tank and healer included, must know to down those adds if they get void shifted.

As for dps. I usually find that a group total of 5k will cut it in the easer heroics. For the tougher ones I wouldnt want any of the dps to be below 1.5k really. 

Ta ta for now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroic VH is an odd beast, you can run it 9 times in 25 minutes and think its easy then hit trouble in the tenth run. The &#8216;kite around the top&#8217; boss is very unpredictable with his buggy summons even though you are in los.</p>
<p>I tend to use the lamps on Ichorons adds (only time i have found them useful). As for the Void, its just a matter of having decent dps and a really solid healer. Everyone, tank and healer included, must know to down those adds if they get void shifted.</p>
<p>As for dps. I usually find that a group total of 5k will cut it in the easer heroics. For the tougher ones I wouldnt want any of the dps to be below 1.5k really. </p>
<p>Ta ta for now!</p>
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		<title>By: Ablimoth</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>Ablimoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kadomi,

1000dps really doesn&#039;t cut it in heroics, sadly.

A good healer/tank can carry 1, maybe 2 low DPS&#039;ers, but without two at 1400+ it&#039;s really, really hard. If it&#039;s a guild run that&#039;s giving you issues it&#039;s probably better to admit that you&#039;re a bit short on damage and try gearing everyone up a little in normal mode/burn lots of cash in the AH.

When you get 3 dps doing 1200+ you can start to get through Heroics.

Good luck (and don&#039;t give up!)

p.s. WRITE MORE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kadomi,</p>
<p>1000dps really doesn&#8217;t cut it in heroics, sadly.</p>
<p>A good healer/tank can carry 1, maybe 2 low DPS&#8217;ers, but without two at 1400+ it&#8217;s really, really hard. If it&#8217;s a guild run that&#8217;s giving you issues it&#8217;s probably better to admit that you&#8217;re a bit short on damage and try gearing everyone up a little in normal mode/burn lots of cash in the AH.</p>
<p>When you get 3 dps doing 1200+ you can start to get through Heroics.</p>
<p>Good luck (and don&#8217;t give up!)</p>
<p>p.s. WRITE MORE!</p>
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		<title>By: Ambrosyne</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambrosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fail guild groups are more soul-crushing than fail pugs.&quot;

Absolutely.  This is why my prot warrior hasn&#039;t touched an instance since an all guild UK run blew up in a fit of &quot;OMG YOU CAN&#039;T TANK&quot; by a guildie.    :(

*hands you a soul-inflator, and a cookie*

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ambrosyne&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://forthebubbles.blogspot.com/2009/01/guest-blog.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guest blog.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fail guild groups are more soul-crushing than fail pugs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely.  This is why my prot warrior hasn&#8217;t touched an instance since an all guild UK run blew up in a fit of &#8220;OMG YOU CAN&#8217;T TANK&#8221; by a guildie.    <img src='http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*hands you a soul-inflator, and a cookie*</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ambrosyne&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://forthebubbles.blogspot.com/2009/01/guest-blog.html" rel="nofollow">Guest blog.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/2009/01/14/mission-started/comment-page-1#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, always glad to have other girl tanks over here. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, always glad to have other girl tanks over here. <img src='http://www.tanklikeagirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPS was hunter, moonkin and arms warrior, and I was just below the hunter, above all others. In the previous run we had a shadow priest instead of moonkin, but same results DPS wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPS was hunter, moonkin and arms warrior, and I was just below the hunter, above all others. In the previous run we had a shadow priest instead of moonkin, but same results DPS wise.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am actually considering getting 2 points in Imp Spell Reflect after this. I&#039;ll have to mess around with my spec in Talented a bit. Thanks for the suggestion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually considering getting 2 points in Imp Spell Reflect after this. I&#8217;ll have to mess around with my spec in Talented a bit. Thanks for the suggestion!</p>
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